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Thursday, June 01, 2006
  Modi Visit to US - 3

Posted by: Kaushal May 3 2005, 01:22 PM

Excellent point Rajesh. I hope yo will make this point repeatedly to all and sundry This is a characteristic which Indians exhibit often, namely look for some fault in ourselves in order to rationalize away the behavior of others towards us. The US has no business not granting a visa for reasons other than violating US Law (within its borders). It certainly is not the moral preceptor of the world to teach morals to Modi or any other Indian. I am shocked Indians after 50 years of independence are still exhibiting a slave mentality. OTOH, habits of thought acquired over a millenia are not easily shed.

Posted by: rajesh_g May 12 2005, 02:24 PM

I hope BJP remembers this.

Proposal to blacklist Pakistan: Religious freedom WASHINGTON, May 11: A US Congress-mandated commission advised the government on Wednesday to blacklist Pakistan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan for alleged violation of religious freedom and beliefs. The US Commission on International Religious Freedom also sought the removal of India from the government’s list of “countries of particular concern” following “significant” improvements in that country since the defeat of the ruling Hindu nationalist BJP in 2004 polls. The State Department annually blacklists countries for alleged religious freedom violations based on recommendations from the commission, whose 10 members are jointly appointed by President George Bush and Congress. Last year, the department added Eritrea, Saudi Arabia and Vietnam to the blacklist, which already included China, Iran, Myanmar, North Korea and Sudan. Countries added to the department’s blacklist could face government sanctions on various fronts. Commission chairman Preeta Bansal told reporters on Wednesday the governments of Pakistan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan “have engaged in or tolerated particularly severe violations of religious freedom.”—AFP

Posted by: utepian May 13 2005, 01:11 PM

The US Commission on International Religious Freedom also sought the removal of India from the government’s list of “countries of particular concern” following “significant” improvements in that country since the defeat of the ruling Hindu nationalist BJP in 2004 polls.
So America has made it clear. The only reason for India to be a country of particular concern was its democratically elected government!

Posted by: utepian May 16 2005, 07:51 AM

Trasnscript of an email exchange in FOIL posted in the SAAG forum.

============================= SRIRAM ANANTHANARAYANAN Email : Good idea. I too think we should drop the word as well from the formal campaign. However the fact remains is that the community does in fact dominate the aahoa. Also they have been very supportive of Modi and the Sangh. There's just no getting away from that Don't wish to get into an idealogical argument here, nor do I think that any community has to be branded, but one cannot work on these kind of struggles without indirectly or directly referring to class and the communities that dominate the upper, more oppressive classes. I'm sure a fair number of FOILers were born into fairly privileged, upper class, (upper caste) families. And I'm also sure that we'd be among the first to admit to the heinous, virulent oppressive acts inflicted upon the disenfranchised that have been carried out, and continue to be carried out by the upper/privileged classes over the past many centuries. However I do agree that we should not brand people, and that we should drop the word. Good thing you pointed it out. Much thanks, Sri ***Humanity is all*** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandeep Vaidya (BH/LMI)" Date: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:57 am Subject: RE: [foil] potential action items I wholeheartedly support efforts to the Modi's visit. If I was living in the US I would have certainly joined in the efforts. However, I am concerned that there is an attempt to target the Patels. It is legit to target motels which are part of the trade group. Phrases like 'POTELS' should be avoided as well. Just my thoughts.... Sandeep -----Original Message----- From: [] Sent: 18 February 2005 16:44 To: Kamala Visweswaran Cc:; Subject: Re: [foil] potential action items These are very good research pieces to know particularly if one is looking at a long term campaign. I'll try and find out as much as I can over the weekend and get back to you. During that time will also submit the following: (1)list of emails/contact details of founding sponsors of aahoa (2) list out contact details of investigative journalists (3)list of contact details for hotels outside of aahoa (4) contact details of progressive groups in univs who would be willing to help in this campaign I think now the immediate next step would be to get the letter. Also regarding conf call. Shall we have one on Sunday evening maybe? I can set it up on a free conference website. Sri ***Humanity is all*** ----- Original Message ----- From: Kamala Visweswaran Date: Thursday, February 17, 2005 11:12 am Subject: Re: [foil] potential action items Dear Sri: These items are a terrific start. Am not sure that the other letter will circulate after all, but perhaps it's not bad to have multiple letters to AAHOA. Great idea to send letter to the sponsors and to non-member hotels of AAHOA. I think we should also think about what a long term successful boycott would look like. Can we draw up a two year time frame? I think we may need to do a little research for the longterm: 1) What are the strategies used by other successful boycotts: i.e. UAW boycott of grapes, GLBT boycott of Coors, etc? 2)How much money do AAHOA hotels make a year? Do they derive any part of their business from Universities, which we use student pressure to boycott? We should research the Ft. Lauderdale hotel/university connections first: if we find a link, we can use that to mobilize students in the area. 3)what percentage of the hotels are roadside POTELS? If we find that a alrge number of them are distributed along interstates, we will need to figure out a way of publicly identifying them. --Kamala --- SRIRAM ANANTHANARAYANAN among others, these are some of the action items i could think off straight away: 1) boycott letter needed. 2) checked the aahoa website ( i think we should concentrate our emails more on the founding sponsor list (under "allied directory" on the left hand side). these have people from all over the country, and from different companies who can ill-afford bad publicity. this is in direct contrast to the board of directors (out of 9, 8 are patels), the exec committee (out of 10, 9 are patels), and the regional directors (out of 18, 17 are patels). all these can be found under "about aahoa" on left hand side. it is very likely that many of these people are quite entrenched with the sangh's philosophy, else they wouldn't have invited him in the first place. 3) we should consider contacting newspapers (particularly the investigative journalists) in atlanta (aahoa hq) and fort lauderdale (conf venue). there are 5 major newspapers in atlanta and 4 major ones in ft lauderdale. we could use the letter as a template, you know talk of the pogrom that took place in gujarat, the modi-govt's complicity, as well as the support the sangh recieves from expats in the states and request them to do an investigation, and a write-up. 4) we should also i think try and send the letter to managers/employees in the various companies that are there as founding sponsors of the aahoa. 5) maybe think of sending it to investigative journalists in other newspapers as well. 6) send it to hotels that are NOT under the aahoa. if nothing else they would like to help in hurting their competition. please add more as you see fit. we should probably have a conf call this weekend. thanks, sri ***Humanity is all*** ----- Original Message ----- From: Kamala Visweswaran Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 4:36 pm Subject: Re: [foil] Re: Sri to head up Potel Boycott Committee! Hi Sri: You are hereby nominated to head up the Boycott Committee; thanks. smile.gif Who else is joining? Can you come up w/a list of action items, maybe brainstorm w/some Alliance people? Who else is signing up to work on this committee. Yes, there is a letter being drafted to the AAHOA suggesting that a boycott will happen. It will circulate soon. Can also get you the membership list of AAHOA id the committee wants to do mailings to them. Good idea to do a conference call in the next few days to consolidate ideas and strategy. --Kamala --- SRIRAM ANANTHANARAYANAN wrote: i'm in. particularly with committe number 2. do you have a list of action items? should we start by writing out an appeal of sorts, maybe a letter to send to aahoa bigwigs, and the participants in the trade show? what about letters to the state regarding the visa stuff? once more people have signed up, maybe we should have a phone conference one of these evenings to thrash out action items. sri ***Humanity is all*** ----- Original Message ----- From: Kamala Visweswaran Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:24 pm Subject: [foil] Re: Mass Mobilization and Boycott of AAHOA Hotels !PeoplePeoplePeople! Multitudes, minions, and apparently sleeping masses. Time to do something about Modi's visit. I am ashamed and embarassed at the relative silence on this list about Modi's visit, and the fact that Muslim and Christian organizations have so far had to take the lead in developing the Modi campaign. This is neither fair, nor tactically sound, given the vulnerability of the Muslim community in the US after 9/11. Secular organizations have to step forward to do the work, planning, and to shoulder responsibility. We need to build a broad coalition fast, which includes POI, CAC, CSFH, YSS, DRUM, Mango Sisters, Sakhi, Manavi, Worker's Awaaz, etc. etc. We should definitely make all efforts to get his visa denied, but we cannot expect that it will be. We should write editorials and articles. But we need more. I propose: 1) We aim to mobilize 10 busloads of protesters to converge on Ft. Lauderdale March 24-25. Let's organize some freedom rides down the East Coast and into Florida to make M-24 Indian diaspora anti-genocide day. We need to issue a call immediately, rent the buses (maybe ANSWER has some discount rates we can avail of), literature, street theatre, drumming (Raja is hereby nominated) and agit prop. (I will try to mobilize a bus from Texas). 2) We tell AAHOA that if they persist in "honoring" Modi, we are organizing a massive boycott call of all AAHOA owned hotels in the US and Canada. We will take out ads, jam the diaspora list-servs, and show up unannounced at Patel Motels everywhere with signs, stickers, and literature explaining the boycott and listing alternate hotels in the area to be patronized. I propose we form two commitees to organize each mobilization, and further propose that the East === message truncated ===

Posted by: Viren May 18 2005, 08:36 PM


Q. One more controversy that erupted recently was the Asian American Hotel Owners Association's invitation to Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi. The State Department denied entry to him and listed him persona non grata. A coalition of groups -- including Indian American groups and the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom chaired by Preeta Bansal -- appealed to the State Department not to allow him to come to the U.S. because of his alleged complicity in anti-Muslim and anti-Christian pogroms. There was a letter to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice from Congressman Joe Pitts (Pennsylvania Republic) co-signed by twenty other congressmen -- whose names were kept confidential -- asking her not to allow Modi to enter the U.S. because of his involvement in the persecution of minorities in Gujarat. Were you a co-signee of the letter? A. I was not. I know Congressman Pitts well. I do not think we were asked to sign that letter. He may have done it through the Values Action Group [in Congress]. I recently joined the group. It meets once a week to discuss legislation and letters. I am a member of the Republicans Study Committee. It is very likely because of the issue, it would not surprise me that it could have been done by the group too. Often, the RSC would send a letter to the Values Action Group. It may have been the members of the group signed the letter. If you want to quickly get a group of members on an issue you go to a group like it that is predisposed and very involved in matters of protecting rights of religious minorities. They do other things as well, but it is one issue they certainly champion. Q. What is your take on the denial of a visa to Modi? A. We were not approached. We did not get involved in the issue. [But] certainly there were compelling points made by two groups. I did not see the letter so I don't want to speak on it. India and American both have a proud history and tradition on protecting rights of religious minorities. It is something both countries can proudly point to and sure enough, it is appropriate. It is something that is a very key part of our relationship going forward. Whatever our State Department does now or going forward, we need to continue promoting it not only between India and America but overseas. It is a very important point to be always emphasizing and reminding and promoting. The State Department erred in confusing signals that they sent out. The impression that many people got in India and here was that the State Department would honor the visa. Then there was an impression that they were not. Finally they did not issue the visa. The State Department should have figured out what it would do and sent out a consistent message. The confusing signals did not serve either India-America relations or the State Department well. It seems a little odd that so soon after Secretary Rice was in India, for them to make such a change in decision. I would have preferred they had been more consistent. If it was something they had concerns about and if it was something they knew they would do earlier, I wish they had acted and done it in a way that would not have caused the public dissension and potential embarrassment. If the State Department had decided it was not proper, it could have handled it more diplomatically. Q. In a sense there was a perception of the Administration succumbing to pressure by some groups and the strong letter from Congressman Pitts and others? A. It is right. Many countries we disagree with, we have issues with. We do it in a way that does not harm the overall relationship. There are things we are not happy about with many trading partners and strategic partners. There are ways for us to communicate it firmly without compromising principles -- that don't do damage to the underlying relationship. We should not go out of the way to embarrass individuals. If the State Department had concluded that in our strategic interests it was the right decision, I wish they had done it sooner and more consistently. They could have spared a lot of people embarrassment. They could have done it with more respect for the longer term and bigger picture relationship, as the relationship between Indian and America is more important than one visit or one visa decision. The much more important context is doing everything we can to preserve that bigger relationship and grow that bigger relationship. In international relations, whether it is Modi or the rest, I have taken strong stands. I want to put it in context. Obviously I respect the role of the President as the Commander-in-Chief. Ultimately, it is up to the Executive branch. It is up to the State Department and the President to make foreign policy. Constitutionally it is their job. I don't want to sound like I am over stepping the role.

Posted by: rajesh_g May 19 2005, 09:27 AM

So its twenty other congressmen + Pitts. I thought there were 21 + Pitts. Also expect desis to go gaga over this interview when the reality is that Jindal is just trying to protect his campaign funding base. The uncles and aunties will feel oh-so-goody-goody now.. rolleyes.gif If Jindal is infact serious he should raise the question in RSC -> whose payroll is Pitts on ? Pakis ?

Posted by: Viren May 19 2005, 11:13 AM

If Jindal is infact serious he should raise the question in RSC
Rajesh: I think, Jindal could be pulling a fast one here. I didn't paste the entire interview - will do in NRI thread later. He says that isn't aware of the 21; he wasn't notified about the letter in House or in Values Action Group; nor Republicans Study Committee. He's claimed that the bill by India Caucus to stop F16 trasfer to TSP didn't reach his office too. Now, remember this guy was smart enough to run the entire LA states healthcare system at the age of 25 (or 30?) and came pretty close to becoming governor of LA.

Posted by: Viren May 23 2005, 08:36 AM

NEW DELHI: The Narendra Modi brand of governance has got an unexpected endorsement. The Rajiv Gandhi Foundation, headed by Sonia Gandhi, has adjudged Modi’s Gujarat as the Number 1 state in economic freedom index. A study ‘Economic Freedom for States of India’ carried out by the Rajiv Gandhi Institute for Contemporary Studies, the foundation’s think-tank, has come to this conclusion after analysing “economic freedom” in different states of India. The study has defined economic freedom as “absence of goverment coercion or constraint in the production, distribution or consumption of goods and services beyond the extent necessary for citizens to protect and maintain liberty by itself”. In other words, the foundation does not agree that individual liberty is under threat in Mr Modi’s Gujarat. The study is all praise for Gujarat, as it grades state governments on its political decision-making; the extent to which justice is served; levels of corruption; and the extent of regulation in the labour market. The study, which has taken into account the size of government, security of property rights and regulation of credit and business has said that Gujarat comes on top. On the size of goverment, Gujarat comes in the first position. For, only a small share of the GSDP is accounted for by government services. Here, the government has a small role as subsidiser. Power subsidies are among the lowest in Gujarat In what could be a discomforting finding for the Congress and the Left, the RGF study says: “Safety of life is an essential component (of economic freedom). Gujarat, AP, Tamil Nadu, Haryana and MP have a very small share of the total crimes being accounted for by violent crimes. This share is much higher in J&K, UP, Jharkhand, Bihar and Assam, where murder, rape, kidnapping, abduction, riots, arson and dowry deaths are more rampant”. The findings do not end here. “In Gujarat, Chattisgarh, Rajasthan and MP (all BJP ruled) a large share of the cases that are taken up by the police are ensured complete investigation, unlike in West Bengal, Punjab, Bihar, Jharkhand and Assam”. Also,“in Gujarat, least number of mandays are lost as a result of strikes and lockout as a ratio of total industrial workers in the state”. Gujarat’s liberal licence regime has also come for praise in the report. “Constraints on trade imposed by market and license fees were also included in economic freedom. Corruption is also seen to be relatively low in Modi’s Gujarat. “In Gujarat, AP, Maharashtra, a smaller share of the total cases resgistered are pending investigation.” “Gujarat, AP, Maharashtra and Haryana exhibited low minimum license fee for traders”. “Corruption is measured in terms of cases pending investigation as a ratio of total cases registered under Prevention of Corruption and related acts. In Gujarat, AP, Maharashtra, a smaller share of the total cases resgistered are pending investigation. The situation, however, is bleak in West Bengal, J&K, HP, Jharkhand and Bihar”.

Posted by: rajesh_g May 23 2005, 01:54 PM

Some heads are going to roll at the RGF.. This has got to be a big boo-boo. I can totally see Ambika Soni going --> tum logon ko pagar kis liye dete hain .. ROTFL.gif

Posted by: utepian May 23 2005, 02:52 PM

Report has been out couple of days. Pinkos and FOILees are stunned in silence!

Posted by: keshto patel May 23 2005, 03:03 PM

QUOTE(Viren @ May 19 2005, 11:43 PM)
Now, remember this guy was smart enough to run the entire LA states healthcare system at the age of 25 (or 30?) and came pretty close to becoming governor of LA.
His diplomatic tongue can differentiate between salt and pepper. This evangalist bobby is far from being naive. He can be the best chameleon. Dont get me wrong. You got it right.

Posted by: keshto patel May 27 2005, 05:08 PM

Sonia puts pressure against Modi 26 May 2005: After Sonia Gandhi pulled up Ahmed Patel for not moving against Narendra Modi, a ministerial committee was set up to determine if riot-related cases against him could be given to the CBI, and on the strength of that, sack his government. But the Opposition BJP, in that case, is prepared to raise the issue of closing the CBI’s corruption cases against Satish Sharma, and will demand registering of CBI cases against the accused in the anti-Sikh riots, many of who are senior Congress leaders. Congress sources said that the party expects no local BJP opposition to Modi’s dismissal, since they anyway want him out, and they expect to “pacify” the state and the administration in one year of President’s rule, and thereafter hold elections.

Posted by: Mudy May 27 2005, 05:15 PM

link/source please

Posted by: keshto patel Jun 1 2005, 03:47 PM

UPA frantic about leaked Modi sack plan 30 May 2005: At least four home ministry and agency officials are being watched after top secret plans to sack the Narendra Modi government in July-August leaked to the BJP, soon after which the former PM, A.B.Vajpayee, warned the UPA against taking any such step while proceeding on a holiday to Manali. In his train, Sushma Swaraj spoke out against the plans to dismiss Modi, and this was followed by a warning statement from the BJP president, L.K.Advani. Once before, plans to sack Modi were leaked to the BJP, after he refused to cancel a personal visit to the UK, where he was likely to be arrested, for the death of some British Muslim tourists during the Gujarat riots. Expecting his arrest in the UK to spark off riots in Gujarat, the UPA government had planned a massive security bandobast in the state, and taking the plea of a breakdown in the law-and-order situation, Modi was planned to be sacked, but this was alerted to the BJP. Advani spoke to Modi to cancel the UK trip, and when prime minister Manmohan Singh returned the chief minister’s phone call late in the night, he used that as a cover to stay on in the country. “That leak and this one has alerted the UPA government about certain officers being sympathetic to the NDA, and they are now being closely watched,” said a senior official.

Posted by: acharya Jun 1 2005, 03:52 PM

Once before, plans to sack Modi were leaked to the BJP, after he refused to cancel a personal visit to the UK, where he was likely to be arrested, for the death of some British Muslim tourists during the Gujarat riots.

Posted by: Viren Jun 3 2005, 07:00 AM

QUOTE(Viren @ May 23 2005, 11:36 AM),000900040003.htm
Gujarat government has been given the UNESCO Asia-Pacific Heritage award for helping to rebuild a 200-year-old Gurudwara in Kutch district, which was destroyed during the earthquake that hit the state in 2001. The Gurudwara located at Lakhpat village of Kutch district has been rebuilt by the combined efforts of the Sikh leaders, karsevaks, local people and Gujarat government, an official release said. New Delhi based Cultural Resource Conservation Initiative were the project consultants for this reconstruction programme, which was achieved through people's participation in a village dominated by Muslims.
Take that CAG + FOIL + NRI-SHAI "collective" laugh.gif

Posted by: Viren Jun 7 2005, 08:20 AM

From Modi's Gujarat rocker.gif rocker.gif Can you believe all those Islamists nations turning to Modi's Gujarat for guidance ohmy.gif Queries seeking guidance pour in from disaster-prone neighbours. Janyala Sreenivas

Ahmedabad, June 6: AFTER helping in resurrection of Kutch, the Gujarat State Disaster Management Authority (GSDMA) is now assisting neighbouring nations in disaster management and policy-making. From Iran to Afghanistan to China, disaster management authorities are turning to GSDMA for guidance and expertise in reconstruction and disaster mitigation. After the tsunami struck on December 26, 2004, the GSDMA website had 41,000 hits within a week with several hundred queries from Sri Lanka, Indonesia and Thailand. Besides, several States like Tamil Nadu, Andhra Pradesh, and Andaman and Nicobar Administration are using the GSDMA model to set up their own disaster management mechanisms. Last week, C V Shanker, Officer on Special Duty for tsunami relief, Government of Tamil Nadu was in Gandhinagar to gather some tips on reconstruction policy. A delegation from Afghanistan comprising government officials and NGOs visited the GSDMA recently to look at the housing reconstruction policy in Kutch. ‘‘A lot of reconstruction is happening in war-torn Afghanistan and they wanted to see how we are reconstructing houses and relocating people where necessary,’’ says GSDMA joint CEO V Thiruppugazh. Before them a delegation from Iran visited Kutch wanting to know how financial and technical assistance was provided to help victims in reconstruction. The Islamic Republic Housing Foundation of Iran requested the GSDMA to provide reconstruction programme details to help Iran prepare policies relating to damage assessment, implementation strategy, rubble removal, temporary shelters and financial assistance. Thiruppugazh says the GSDMA’s Gujarat Emergency Reconstruction and Rehabilitation Programme (GREEP), especially the Housing Reconstruction Programme, is being taken as a model by various governments and organisations, involved in disaster mitigation and reconstruction, based on which they are formulating their own policies. ‘‘Our disaster prepareness strategies are also helping others device their own response mechanisms,’’ he says. Authorities from Bangladesh, which is often ravaged by cyclones, visited GSDMA and sought to know the immediate measures to be taken for disaster mitigation. In February, a top-level team from Sri Lanka visited Kutch and met GSDMA officials. ‘‘Besides the reconstruction programme they were interested in redressal of grievances and channelising complaints for immediate action. We made presentations to them explaining how complaints were taken care of and showed them the reconstruction and relocation sites,’’ says Thiruppugazh. In fact, the Asian Development Bank which is providing financial assistance in earthquake reconstruction is recommending GSDMA model to other states as well as neighbouring countries, says S V Anil Das, Urban Development Specialist, ADB. The surprise was a visit by a team from China which wanted to study how the GSDMA was set up, its role and constitution, and how it helped in disaster management. The Chinese team besides appreciating the reconstruction work looked at disaster preparedness initiatives taken by the GSDMA. GSDMA has also networked with a number of emergency rescue and response groups and humanitarian aid agencies to be prepared for any eventuality. The GSDMA is also assisting the governments of Andhra Pradesh and Tamil Nadu to set up their own disaster management and mitigation institutions. According to GSDMA officials, the two states and Andaman and Nicobar administration are using the GSDMA model to make their policy documents.

Posted by: Mudy Jun 7 2005, 08:28 AM

But Lalu and Congress still looking for Modi's head.

Posted by: keshto patel Jun 7 2005, 01:43 PM

Modi US fiasco revisited with a backlash on patels. 50 patel businessmen of rome georgia arrested, some women also handcuffed, half of them still waiting for a bail. All they did was sell a over the counter pruduct called mini thin which uses efedrine -- that can be used for manufacturing of drugs feds claim. This ploy is going to hit the Atlanta TV-CNN soon. Stay tuned!

Posted by: Mudy Jun 7 2005, 09:08 PM

Lawmen say they've been keeping watch since February and that led to Friday's bust. Agents seized more than 10,000 tablets and $153,000. The store manager Urgresh Patel and employee Biron Patel were arrested.They're charged under a new law passed just this year.
Its not a backlash, but simple greed.

Posted by: keshto patel Jun 19 2005, 07:39 PM

QUOTE(Mudy @ Jun 8 2005, 09:38 AM)
Its not a backlash, but simple greed.
Why is the Indian community singled out? have you ever heard chinese restaurants being singled out ever for any sting operation for selling alcohol to minors? Few of the gujus did not know what is meth. A 8 month pregnant wife who was watching the register (cash) as her man was eating the food that she brought got arrested too. Why operation on PATELS?

Posted by: aruni Jun 29 2005, 07:08 AM

More on the Rakesh Sharma story

Posted by: Mudy Jul 6 2005, 06:06 PM

By Indo-Asian News Service New Delhi, July 6 (IANS) Eminent economist Bibek Debroy is leaving the Rajiv Gandhi Institute for Contemporary Studies after a document praising Gujarat's Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) government embarrassed the Congress leadership, informed sources said. Although the sources said he would be giving up his post as director of the institute soon, Debroy refused to confirm or deny this. Congress president Sonia Gandhi heads the Rajiv Gandhi Foundation (RGF), to which the institute is linked. "I will not say anything on it," Debroy told IANS. A research paper sponsored by the Friedrich-Naumann Stiftung in Germany and published by the RGF, that came out in May rated Gujarat as the top state in India in its economic freedom index and as the best-governed state. Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi and his government have been flaunting the appreciation from the foundation and have taken out full-page "Always Enterprising Gujarat" advertisements in leading newspapers quoting Debroy's report. Though the RGF sought to distance itself from the study, the sources said the Congress leaders in Gujarat and in New Delhi were "quite annoyed" over the report. biggrin.gif Many NGOs in the state launched a signature campaign to register their protest with the RGF for lauding the Gujarat government, where sectarian violence claimed some 1,000 lives in 2002. Debroy, a professional economist, has also worked as a consultant to the department of economic affairs under the ministry of finance.
Punish him because he is saying truth. Yoginder Sikhand came up with online petiton which contain 90% curse to him. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Viren Jul 7 2005, 10:20 AM

From ToI...

signature campaign has been launched by a string of NGOs to register a protest with the Rajiv Gandhi Foundation (RGF) for judging Gujarat, under its chief minister Narendra Modi, as 'the number one state' in the country in terms of what it calls 'economic freedom index'. The draft of the protest letter, being circulated among human rights activists and NGOs here stated, "The foundation's certificate of approval is being touted about with much fanfare by the Hindutvawalas, including in the form of newspaper advertisements to promote Modi as a nationalist icon". The note of protest has been put on a website where an appeal has been issued to sign up by clicking on an icon to 'protest against the Rajiv Gandhi Foundation's study and the use that Hindutvawalas are putting it to and white-wash their genocidal crimes in Gujarat." The protest note says the foundation study is all praise for Gujarat as it grades the state government on its political decision making, the extent to which justice is served, levels of corruption and the extent of regulation in the labour market. The Indian index consists of 25 components spread in three broad areas: size of government, security of property rights and regulation of credit and business. The note takes exception to the comment that "In Gujarat, Chhattisgarh, Rajasthan and Madhya Pradesh (all BJP-ruled states) a large share of the cases that are taken up by the police are ensured complete investigation, unlike in West Bengal, Punjab, Bihar, Jharkhand and Assam." Corruption is also seen to be relatively low in Modi's Gujarat. Describing the report as 'full of downright lies', the note says, "It appears that the authors of the study commissioned by the foundation have deliberately sought to give Modi and his murderous government a clean chit. The study has ignored the central role of the Gujarat government, headed by Modi, in the mass murder of hundreds of Muslims in the state."

Posted by: Kumar Jul 7 2005, 08:52 PM

Gandhi loyalists have suckered India into such a mess. Their priorities are messed up. Country takes back seat. Their stupid agenda, which amounts to nothing and will gain us nothing, takes the top most priority.

Posted by: Mudy Jul 9 2005, 09:40 AM,~reckless~Sonia~plays~editor

NEW DELHI, JULY 8: After being asked by Rajiv Gandhi Foundation chairperson Sonia Gandhi to get all research papers vetted by her executive committee, Rajiv Gandhi Institute for Contemporary Studies director Bibek Debroy has resigned. Gandhi’s instruction follows Debroy’s report on economic freedom in Indian states which gave top ranking to Gujarat. The report was cheered, celebrated and publicised by Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi. While the Congress thought the report offered Gujarat CM a political handle, its leader and RGF head issued a letter to Debroy asking him to get all research papers vetted by the committee before publishing. Apart from Sonia Gandhi and RGF secretary general Manmohan Malhotra, Suman Dubey, V Krishnamurthy and P Chidambaram are members of the committee. Malhotra, when contacted, said: ‘‘I refuse to comment.’’ ‘‘For a fiercely independent researcher like Debroy, that amounted to a marching order. We all know he would have never compromised,’’ said Debroy’s friend and economist, Amir Khan of India Development Foundation. So on July 1, Debroy resigned. He will quit office on August 31 after a two-month notice period.
Now SOnia will fudge all data.

Posted by: Sudhir Aug 5 2005, 01:05 PM

Now SOnia will fudge all data.
Only fudge Sonia can cook could be Italian Tiramisu and Canoli kinds Fudge this thumbup.gif Bibek Debroy - who kicked up a shindy with his top rating for Gujarat in the growth charts in his report for the Rajiv Gandhi Foundation - now has company. The Planning Commission has put its seal of approval on Debroy’s controversial rating. Gujarat remains ahead of all states in terms of growth in per capita income in 2003-2004 over 2001-2002. Also, it ranks a close second after Madhya Pradesh in growth in per capita income of states, calculated for 2003-2004 over 2002-2003. Bihar ranks last on both counts. The figures are an eye-opener in terms of where the growth rate lies across the length and breadth of the country. Interestingly, the Centre’s figures also show that Gujarat has attracted the maximum investment in the last five years followed by Andhra Pradesh. According to the Planning Commission, Gujarat has registered a 10.3% of compound annual growth rate, a measure of annual per cent increase in per capita income, between 2000-01 and 2003-04. Manipur follows Gujarat with a compound annual growth rate of 8.5%. However, the gulf between the first two and the rest of the country is yawning. West Bengal ranks third with 5.7% followed by Orissa with 4.9% On the lower part of the ladder are usual suspects besides a few eye-openers. Bihar has a negative compound annual growth rate of 1.5%, with the per capita income of Rs 3,879 in 2000-2001 dipping to Rs 3,707 in 2003-04. Arunachal Pradesh has an annual growth rate of minus 1% and Punjab registered a growth of only 1.6%. Uttar Pradesh has a measly 0.4% to show. Meghalaya and Rajasthan are among others with lower figures. Rate of growth apart, per capita income of Chandigarh in 2003-04 is the highest at Rs 31,865 followed by Rs 23,610 for Pondicherry. The same for Gujarat is Rs 16,779, Rs 15,800 for Punjab and Rs 15,721 for Haryana. The per capita income for states presents a similar picture. Madhya Pradesh’sper cent increase in 2003-04 over 2002-03 stands at 22, with the hike in figures being from Rs 11,483 to Rs 14,011. Ranking a close second is Gujarat - with 18.1% increase, Rs 22,838 in 2002-03 to Rs 26979 in 2003-04. Rajasthan’s per capita income for state rose by 15.6% and that of Kerala by 10.1%. Maharashtra has registered a rise from Rs 26,113 in 2002-03 to Rs 28,414 in 2003-04 with a per cent increase of 8.8.

Posted by: Mudy Sep 11 2005, 03:44 PM

QUOTE Modi needs to reapply for visa: US Consulate General Saturday September 10 2005 00:00 IST AHMEDABAD: Chief Minister Narendra Modi, who was denied visa in 2004 by US authorities on human rights ground due to genocide in communal riots in Gujarat in March-2002, could now visit the US, US Consulate General Michael S Owen said here on Friday. Owen told journalists here, “The US Government is not apprehensive about Modi's visit to America but we have a human rights policy for granting an US visa to any tourist. However, Modi could reapply for US visa to visit USA.'' When asked, Owen, who was virtually snubbed by Modi by denying a one-on-one-visit with him, said, “I have sought an appointment with Modi and Gujarat Governor Nawal Kishore Sharma, but, because of my short visit to Gujarat and their hectic schedules we could not meet in person.'' ...................

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Posted by: Viren Jan 5 2006, 09:32 AM's%20US%

New Delhi, Jan. 4: The “secular” Congress-led UPA government has selected the Vishwa Hindu Parishad’s pointperson in the United States, Dr Sudhir Parekh, who is also a close friend of Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi, as one of the 12 recipients of the Pravasi Bharatiya Samman awards. These will be presented at a glittering ceremony in Hyderabad on January 9. Dr Parekh was the key organiser of the finally-aborted visit of Mr Modi to the US to start what he had termed the “Gaurav Yatra” from New York to Los Angeles after the violence in Gujarat had claimed over 2,000 lives. ohmy.gif ohmy.gif (and the lies continue) Dr Parekh, an allergist in the US, had extended the invitation to the Gujarat chief minister at a function in Ahmedabad in what was projected as a repeat of Mr Modi’s Gaurav Yatra undertaken just before the December 2002 Assembly elections in the state. An intense campaign by US-based human rights groups against the visit eventually persuaded the US government not to grant a visa to Mr Modi. Dr Parekh, however, has remained consistent in praising the chief minister and applauding his many “achievements.” He is widely recognised as an influential Sangh supporter in the United States. The UPA government has selected Dr Parekh as one of the recipients for this prestigious award, which will be presented by President A.P.J. Abdul Kalam to select Persons of Indian Origin at the Pravasi Bharatiya Divas celebrations in Hyderabad next week. January 9 is a date carefully selected by the ministry of overseas Indian affairs as it was on this date in 1915 that Mahatma Gandhi had returned to India from South Africa. Dr Parekh, who felicitated Mr Modi at a time when he was under attack for the communal violence in the state, is now amongst the handful of PIOs selected from different parts of the world to be honoured by the President of India on this date The decision has sent shockwaves through social activists both in both India and in the United States. Eminent Gandhians like Ms Nirmala Deshpande reportedly contacted Congress president Sonia Gandhi on her return from her Mauritius holiday to take up the issue. The response from the Congress leadership was that the decision had been taken by a committee headed by Vice-President Bhairon Singh Shekhawat, and that since the decision had already been taken there was little that the government or Mrs Sonia Gandhi could do about it. Angry activists told this newspaper that they were “shocked beyond belief,” with several PIOs who had participated in the campaign against Mr Modi in the US now seriously considering a boycott of the function. The Rajiv Gandhi Foundation, which is headed by Mrs Sonia Gandhi, had earlier sent alarm bells ringing through the secular camp when it had judged Gujarat under Mr Narendra Modi last year to be the best governed State. The Modi government had immediately highlighted the report while the BJP held press conferences pointing out that even the RGF, headed by the Congress president, had given top position to Gujarat in terms of development, administration, absence of corruption and even providing security to people and maintaining social harmony. This report is now being recalled by angry activists, who were earlier confident that the award to Mr Parekh would be cancelled but have now been told otherwise by the Congress leadership. The Nanavati Commission is now considering a petition by Gujarat activists who want the government to explain why it sought privilege in refusing to release the letter written by late President K.R. Narayanan to then Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee asking about the delay in controlling the violence in Gujarat. The petitioners are hopeful that the commission will now direct the government to release the letter, which can prove very damaging for the BJP which was then heading the government at the Centre as well as the Modi government in the State.

Posted by: Viren Jan 8 2006, 10:05 PM,%20Japan

Modi: Gujarat to compete with China, Japan Hyderabad, Jan. 8: Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi dominated the interactive session of Chief Ministers of various States on the second day of the Pravasi Bharatiya Divas here on Sunday, making a strong pitch for foreign investment with several claims while other Chief Ministers merely plodded through their speech. An attempted boycott of his speech by members of the New York-based Non-Resident Indians for Secular and Harmonious India (SAHI) failed to have any effect. If anything, it seemed to have fired Mr Modi . “We are not looking at competition from other States. We want to position ourselves to compete with China or Japan,” he said. Gujarat had bagged 85 per cent of Foreign Direct Investment in 2005, and the remaining 16 per cent was shared by the rest, he said. “I will not allow the villages of Gujarat to become bazaars for multinational companies. I will turn them into production centres and make their products rule the world (duniya ki bazaar),” he said while referring to his Gram Jyothi scheme. In an obvious dig at AP Chief Minister Dr Rajasekhar Reddy, Mr Modi advised the assembled Chief Ministers not to assume that the farmer needed only electricity. Farmers need water and other inputs, he said. Even as representatives of 10 invited States read out from papers mostly prepared by bureaucrats, Mr Modi went extempore, putting much energy and and emotion into his speech. Other Chief Ministers present were Y.S. Rajasekhar Reddy (Andhra Pradesh), Vilasarao Deshmukh (Maharastra) Ghulam Nabi Azad (Jammu and Kashmir), Nitish Kumar (Bihar) and Oommen Chandy (Kerala). Karnataka, Rajasthan, Tamil Nadu, West Bengal and Punjab were represented by ministers or senior officials. He said he was ready to implement radical labour reforms and was awaiting a nod from the Centre. “I would like Ahluwalia, who is a friend of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, to get the process expedited.” Planning Commission deputy chairman Montek Singh Ahluwalia chaired the session. The ceramic industry will soon be competing with China in the world market. Gujarat is the only State where the railways are also run by the private sector, he claimed. Mr Modi said that his State recorded 11.2 per cent growth rate in agriculture against the national average of four per cent. “This we achieved despite seven years of drought in every decade and this is because of one lakh check dams and 1.37 lakh farm ponds we have built,” he said. He said about 14,000 of Gujarat’s 18,000 villages have round-the-clock electricity. He told the NRIs/PIOs: “I know ultimately you make your calculations while investing. You invest in my State or not. But invest somewhere in India and help the country become an economic power,” he said. “Wherever you are, you should sell Brand India so that people all over the world will go for things Indian and see it as a reliable and trustworthy brand just as people see Japanese-made goods as carrying a stamp of quality,” Mr Modi said. He said that 2006 was the year of tourism in Gujarat and urged the NRIs to send at least five Indian families from their respective countries to Gujarat.

Posted by: Bhootnath Jan 10 2006, 06:36 AM

================================================ Display all headersTo: , From: "Kaleem Kawaja" Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 19:36:08 -0500 Subject: [india-unity] Greetings to: Protesters arrested at Paravasi Bharatiya Divas Reply-To: Dear Friends, On behalf of 25 million NRIs and PIOs who live outside India, we wish to convey warm greetings and much thanks to the three courageous and concientious activists who protested the NRI award to Dr Sudhir Parekh of New Jersey. Dr Parekh is a well known supporter of RSS and BJP and Narendra Modi. For several years he has been organizing events that applaud Hinduttava leaders from India who preach suppression of religious minorioties (Muslims, Christians, Dalits) in India. Last year he was one of the main organizers of the welcome event to Narendra Modi in New York city. Additionally Dr Parekh can not claim any service to the community in his adopted USA, other than making lots of money and socializing with VIPs. The three activists are: Dr Satinath Chaudhri of New York; Mr Attaullah Khan of Baltimore, Mr Hyder Ali Khan of Minnisota. Today they give a new meaning to the movement to stop religion based hatred that will spread wide and make India a better and stronger nation. Congratulations again. Kaleem Kawaja Non Resident Indians for Secular and Harmonious India (NRI-SAHI) Washington DC =================================================== To:,,,,,,, "" , "" From: Sukla Sen Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 19:08:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [india-unity] Shame! Shame!! Reply-To: Folkses, our very own Satinath Choudhary in his moment of glory! Great job, Sati, proud of you. Also kudos to Ataullah Khan of IMC and Hyder Khan (of SHRI in the Twin Cities?). Wish the other NRIs had any spine. (Also see the story in The Hindu which has a photo of Satinath being escorted out by the police and the usual wishywashy rediff story at ) -Shalini ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Posted by: Viren Jan 10 2006, 07:48 AM

On behalf of 25 million NRIs and PIOs who live outside India, we wish to convey warm greetings and much thanks to the three
Who made this Taliban sympathiser the spokesperson for 25 million NRIs? WTF, on behalf of a billion Indians let me congratulate the security officials at PBD for ensuring President Kalam's safety, god alone knows as what these people are up to.

Posted by: Shambhu Jan 10 2006, 11:33 AM

Kaleem Taliban-Lover Kawaja : Go to hell. Sincerely, All NRIs except the brainwashed SAHI-AID-"Inquilaabi" types. Just because all 7000 (12,000? 50,000?) of you are ashamed of calling yourself Bharatiya does not mean all other NRIs share your inferiority complex. :f*(k Calling a piece of $hit a rose will not make it so. Though you will fool those people who have no idea what a rose is. And you will fool those people who have been repeatedly told, and have learnt through their textbooks, that a rose is $hit. Truth will triumph though. Satyameve jayate. (Another piece of Saffronization for you). Anyway, the sky is green and fish fly in it. There. Secular, Harmonious, Intellectual, and Tolerant enough for you?

Posted by: Dev Jan 10 2006, 12:03 PM

Look at that Satinath...looks like terrorist himself...good thing they were escorted out quickly because you never know what their motive was especially with the presence of the president of India...

Posted by: Bhootnath Jan 10 2006, 12:55 PM

QUOTE(Viren @ Jan 10 2006, 09:18 PM)
On behalf of 25 million NRIs and PIOs who live outside India, we wish to convey warm greetings and much thanks to the three
Who made this Taliban sympathiser the spokesperson for 25 million NRIs? WTF, on behalf of a billion Indians let me congratulate the security officials at PBD for ensuring President Kalam's safety, god alone knows as what these people are up to.
FOSA/SAJA Gang or atleast part of it has started all these things , many of the SAJA ppl are member of India-Unity@yahoogroups. Amarjeet Singh of UK is a new entrant in my knowledge.

Posted by: Mudy Jan 10 2006, 03:53 PM

should we move discussion to anti india/ traitor thread. Tomorrow I will move selected post to anti India/traitor thread. We should record bunch of 50 NRI traitors every public and gossip on record so that we can enlighten rest of world.

Amarjeet Singh of UK is a new entrant in my knowledge.
He is a Khalistani and on Pakistan payroll. 

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